google_ad_client: "ca-pub-2856021546132619", I recall it had a white vinyl top. In 2016 The Journal, brought to you by ClassicCars.com, was celebrated as the SECOND MOST INFLUENTIAL automotive blog in the world by NFC Performance. 1992 Pontiac Trans Sport (Brochure). More listings are added daily. So all your prices on Chargers are real and the price I posted for a Grand Prix is fake, I get it, I think I know how this works sort of…..as I said, you and John C do like to argue……even if it makes no sense at all. Low Retail ... Pontiac Grand Prix Pontiac GTO Pontiac Montana. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Dodge-Charger/265004494866?hash=item3db37fb012:g:4G8AAOSwEW9f9mHe, https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/pontiac/grand-prix-sj/2456255.html. 1992 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi (Brochure). And assuming those 1% would have gone to some other showroom because of Pontiac’s decision to not offer a GP with a 3 on the tree, what do you think the costs would be to achieve those 1% in “extra” sales in terms of engineering, product testing, and manufacturing time needed to engineer the chassis to take the 3 speed, train assembly line workers to install an extra transmission variant, and carry inventory in the manufacturing plants and spare parts warehouses for the extra transmission variant and all other 3 speed unique parts (i.e. Why am I being drug into this one. Values Special Notes. Add to Favorites More. The 1969-72 Grand Prix breathed new life into the GP nameplate. It is equipped with a 455 cu in, A 1971 Pontiac Grand Prix hardtop with 30000 actual miles and loaded with options. I can put a $65K asking price on the broken bicycles in my parents’ basement, and pay for a national listing in the hope that someone will be nostalgic for a Murray Baja or a Rockhopper. BTW Why did the Chrysler bother offering a Slant 6 and 3 speed manual in the base Charger? Klikkaa tästä kuvat ja lisätiedot vaihtoautosta. Drive train YS 400 (481988) Rebuilt .40 over mild cam, 4X heads 700R4 (overdrive) 8TXM2023 (1988) … The Charger? CHANGE CAR COMPARE Values Special Notes. I’ve seen a couple ‘slick top’ 1969-70 GPs and they do look good. 3 speeds are not necessarily bad, but I’ve never driven one that is as nice to use as a 4 to 6 speed – more gears and floor shifts are always better than fewer gears and column shift when it comes to fun and staying in the power band. What portion of the 69 GP buyers went with the 3 speed manual – 1%, 2%? Well them Duke Boys did a lot of Charger killing too……. I have no opinion on the relative value of the General Lee, may he rest in peace. There is though the possibility of avoiding the hp deficit of the shlushbox automatic by ordering the three speed manual. The $40,100 bid Charger is a stalled project that needs many tens of thousands of dollars in bodywork alone. My dear old Dad had a a Dodge Coronet with a three on the tree and a super torquey little V8. 1980 Pontiac GTO/LeMans/Tempest Parts. 1965 Pontiac Grand Prix. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. 1979 Pontiac Firebird Prices and Values Trans Am 2 Door Coupe . 1980 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. I don’t remember 1st gear being a stump puller, but I was clueless. I think it looks great without vinyl. He apparently does not remember that upper middle class American brands pre energy crisis were toying with the interesting engineering goal of maximizing fuel economy among their biggest engines. It was a late ’60s Readers’ Digest, and out of all the advertisements contained therein, the best one was for the all new 1969 Grand Prix. Just flipping through it until I spied car ads. While they may not have quite the same bold lines as the 1969-72, I still think they’re very sharp–especially the ’73 with its smaller bumpers and one-year-only tail. However many Chargers died for TV ratings, there are 24 ’68-’70 Chargers on ebay being actively bid to prices higher than the highest bid placed on any of the 8 ’69-’72 Grands Prix currently up for sale. Thanks for the insight Carmine, but it only makes the mystery even greater. Your email address will not be published. Values. We understand that limiting high end power might make the owner just press harder on the gas, eating up the economy advantage. That’s not the same thing as waiting to see the person willing to pay more than five grand for my junk gets outbid. Yea, if only I had had $10k laying around during the 1974 or 1979 energy crises (and had a driver’s license and garage), I could have picked several 8-10 mpg Hemi/440 Mopars, big block SS Chevys, Super Duty Pontiacs, etc. 1981 Pontiac GTO/LeMans/Tempest Parts. If I had Jay Leno’s resources I would have a lot of fun doing an LSX/6L80 swap and some chassis tuning on a 1972 or 1973. I could have listed the asking prices for completed Chargers, but they’re just asking prices. I’m guessing the designer pushed for making the car available the way it was meant to be. Stingray forgets one point although I compliment him on debasing a previous generation of Americans for both poor product planning for offering a combination he wouldn’t buy and making the bulk of buyers pay extra for the automatic, therefore guilty of money grubbing based on option cost, while on a car he half likes. 1980 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. Klikkaa tästä kuvat ja lisätiedot vaihtoautosta. Pontiac Trans Am in Cadillac, MI 44.00 listings starting at $8,995.00 Pontiac Trans Am in Celina, OH 2.00 listings starting at $24,500.00 Pontiac Trans Am in Clarence, IA 2.00 listings starting at $21,995.00 Pontiac Trans Am in Las Vegas, NV 1.00 listings starting at $37,000.00 Pontiac Trans Am in Lincoln, NE 4.00 listings starting at $39,900.00 Click the icon above to display Year, Make, Model Selectors, Search Box, and more links. I can’t image any GP customer in 1969 actually wanting a 3 and the tree (with no synchromesh on 1st gear) mated to a 400 V-8, so why did GM and Detroit more broadly insist on keeping the 3 speed on the books as the standard transmission on their performance/status cars? The 1966 Charger was very much a personal luxury car; with a standard full length console, full instrumentation, nice seats, a big standard V8(361 ci IIRC), and some attention to assembly. And since we’re on the subject, I need to mention that I like the Colonnade GPs too. I don’t dislike Chryslers, their tied with Ford as my 2nd favorite American automaker. Usually they have a stump puller 1st gear that is good for about 5 mph, before you have to use the slow, sloppy gear lever to move into 2nd where there will either be a huge gap that takes you off peak torque RPM, or there will be a huge gap between 2nd and 3rd when you use the slow sloppy gear lever to move into top gear – no way it would beat a turbo-hydramatic 3 speed of the era which was noted at the time as being near as quick at a well driven 4 speed manual when mated to one of the stronger Pontiac motors. Although the GTO and Trans Am are synonymous with Pontiac performance, the Grand Prix played an important role in transforming the brand’s image in the 1960s. By the time I was old enough to drive, the second Energy Crisis had occurred and these cars were less than desirable due to fuel mileage. Stingray doesn’t care, because he left me alone pushing back against the Korean “Broughams” the Baruths are now full court pushing. 1980 Pontiac (Brochure). The Model J was the base model, with an upgraded “SJ” available with sportier overtones. From its sporty two-seater convertible to its performance-minded sedans, Pontiac still understands that some consumers want their daily … ... 1979 Pontiac GTO/LeMans/Tempest Parts. At least, I liked it enough that I carefully cut out the top picture from the magazine and kept it. Displaying 1 - 15 of 86 total results for classic Pontiac Trans Am Vehicles for Sale. Browse By Car. 1964 Pontiac GTO/LeMans/Tempest Parts. Fit and finish?”, Yeah and I think all those are better on GM cars, again, its an opinion, we can agree to disagree and you know what they say about opinions and assholes….. this site is full of both……, I mean there has to be a reason that in decade from the time this Grand Prix came out GM was still selling mid size cars to retail customers and Chrysler was teetering on the verge of bankruptcy and selling Rosco P Coltraine fleet cop cars to keep the lines moving……. Two ways to Shop. 1979 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am W72 400 0-60 mph 6.6 Quarter mile 14.6 Compare. 43 Replies to “1969 Pontiac Grand Prix: All Hood!” John C. January 7, 2021 at 7:25 am I really like the Pontiac ads of the period where one guy does an accurate painting of the car, while a second artist does the more impressionist background. Offered By: QuickBye.com Advertiser since 2020. I conservatively estimate that I took 1,200 pictures, and one was this ’69 GP in what appears to be Warwick Blue with most excellent white top and white interior. The Stevie Awards, the world's premier business awards recognized It was pinned to a corkboard in my room for years. Pontiac GTO/LeMans/Tempest Parts. 1980 Pontiac GTO/LeMans/Tempest Parts. This was done through gearing, pushing power lower into the rev range, and 2 barrel carbs on 400 cubic inch engines that were offered by Olds, Pontiac Ford, Chrysler and Buick on pre Arab 73 oil shock offerings, including as Tom stated this Grand Prix as a delete option. 1979 Pontiac Firebird (Brochure). 1980 Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am 0-60 mph 8.0 Quarter ... 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Competition Pack 0-60 mph 6.7 Quarter mile 15.0 Compare. Oh well…. Please Note The Following **Vehicle Location is at our clients home and No, Pontiac's general manager John Z. DeLorean ordered the development of an all-new Grand Prix for the, 1968 Pontiac Grand Prix 2 Door Hardtop Coupe, 400 4 Barrel V8 paired to floor shift turbo hydromati, A long and low boulevard cruiser! Wasn’t a 2 barrel 3 speed manual both faster and more economical than the more expensive base engine auto that almost everyone bought? Here are the top Pontiac Firebird listings for sale ASAP. I loved that car nearly enough to overcome my mother’s hatred of it. Click the icon above to display Year, Make, Model Selectors, Search Box, and more links. $14,250. GM was doing a lot of things correctly in 1969 and making a lot of great cars as a consequence, but offering needlessly complex product options that few people bought and which were counterproductive to the desired image of the brand were not among them. Nyt myynnissä Pontiac Grand Prix Grand Prix, 1968 - Kokkola. The bodyis finished in red with black removable soft doors, fender flares, and bumpers. Mr. Klockau, thank you very much for this post. The Charger had far more in common with the GP, being a coupe with some unique bodywork. Miscellaneous 1980's. The Charger is overvalued, like many Mopars are, the “its worth alot” argument only goes far with people that care about that. The Plymouth Road Runner and Dodge Coronet Super Bee were meant to undercut the GTO, but then Pontiac attempted to compete with those two using the Judge. And the salesmen would do their best to upsell to the more expensive transmission and powerplant/carb, along with everything else. In addition to the year’s longest hood, all ’69 GPs had Strato Bucket seats, center console with floor shift, hidden wipers, hidden radio antenna and a V8 engine as standard equipment. This 1983 Jeep CJ7 is powered by a performance 383ci stroker V8 equipped withHeadman headers and Edelbrock fuel injection. Because the car was basically a LeMans with a few inches grafted to the front of the chassis, I imagine it didn’t cost anything to offer a 3 speed in the Grand Prix, though I’ve never seen one. “For only $275, I can put you into a 4 speed, 4 bbl…”. Email alerts available. Required fields are marked *. Buyers responded as well, as sales jumped from 1968’s 31,711 to a very healthy 112,486 in 1969. Pontiac GTO/LeMans/Tempest Parts. The body consists of a combination of original Willys sheet metal and fiberglass reproduction pieces; allfinished in a period-style beige and tan two-tone witha Ruby Red leather interior, Lobeck steering wheel, and performance suspension system.Located in Hanover, Massachusetts, this Willys is now offered by the selling dealer on a clean Massachusetts title. … Miscellaneous 1980's. 1980 Pontiac Firebird Turbo Trans Am 0-60 mph 8.0 Quarter ... 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Competition Pack 0-60 mph 6.7 Quarter mile 15.0 Compare. This 1979 Lincoln Continental Mark Vis an original 25k-mile car with factory-optioned sliding glass moonroof, dual cloth bench seats, and Diamond Blue exterior finish. I really like the Pontiac ads of the period where one guy does an accurate painting of the car, while a second artist does the more impressionist background. https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/pontiac/grand-prix-sj/2456255.html. This 1942 Willys pickup ispowered by a 350ci Chevrolet V8 with a Turbo350 automatic transmission and rides on the original 1942 frame.
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